Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who would revel in the cruelty until it came for them. They see the economic despair as a fair tradeoff. They also imagine themselves in the inner circle benefitting financially.
Trump and his cult backed by the Republican party want to throw our democracy away and try another “shaky” form of government where one (as usual) man controls every aspect of daily life. If you are expecting sunshine and lollipops, then you’re going to be shocked as hell. And hell is will be,
Their is no former or current country with a dictator/strongman/authoritarian leader in the world that offers the potential, freedom, independence and opportunities that Americans have grown accustomed to. Tucker Carlson gushed at how much better Russia is - well asshole go live there. He was shown what they wanted him to see - a propaganda tour of all the upscale places the oligarchs live, dine and work.
How are you and your family going to thrive in a country where the government restricts knowledge, news is only the government’s version of the world, freedom of speech is nonexistent, religion is limited, you are “told” who to vote for and anyone who speaks out against the government gets shipped off to labor camps? The delights of the Western World are only available to the wealthy or active party members.
Which would you rather do? Work together to improve our country or start all over at the bottom of society with little to no input. Dictators don’t care what you want.
True. For starters it’s well documented that such things as health outcomes and longevity fare worse in red states. Living in a state where abortion is banned or heavily restricted literally puts the lives of reproductive age women in danger.
The globe will feel the American abandonment of law even more keenly...
There is a Pax Americana... and Trump will weaken the US to the extent that evil will be so off the leash it couldn't mitigate it even if it wanted to.
The loss of half the work force does not mean white guys return to the best jobs without suffering any loss. Yes, maybe a woman will cook, clean, and wait on them at home, but half the household income is lost. The US would lose doctors, lawyers, nurses, judges, teachers, engineers, store staff, and so many other jobs that females do. That means production is cut or stopped. Healthcare is seriously impacted, courts grind to a halt. And what about the jobs immigrants do, like meat processing, landscaping, or basic labor?
I just don’t know how to convey this to the trumpublican crowd. It’s as crazy as they are.
Glad to be here. We have a one-pager on how Project 2025 will impact media at our campaign website. Www.stopthecoup2025.org.
We also have a weekly headline digest of key losses/setbacks vs progressive advances on Project 2025 themes that provide a loose yardstick of unfolding Christian Nationalist agenda as related to Project 2025. And we have a newsletter for updates, robust social media. Have a look.
We will soon add a solid list of key trackers and folks covering sectors in our resources. Have a look. Thanks for your work.
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Journalist,
Founder GenDemocracy
(umbrella for STC 2025 campaign to stop Project 2025)
That image from The Americans, of Martha in a Soviet near-empty market, really powerful. Brought home the whole deceitful lie that Philip and Elizabeth had been fighting so hard to maintain.
This discussion seems like it should be twinned with “If society collapsed, you're way more likely to be enslaved or livestock than Lord Humungous, and the ”state of nature“ is not only “nasty, brutish, and short” but also absolutely teeming with parasites”.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of people who would revel in the cruelty until it came for them. They see the economic despair as a fair tradeoff. They also imagine themselves in the inner circle benefitting financially.
100%. Was thinking similar. Those that think they’ll be part of the elites (oh, the irony!) would be in for a rude awakening.
Trump and his cult backed by the Republican party want to throw our democracy away and try another “shaky” form of government where one (as usual) man controls every aspect of daily life. If you are expecting sunshine and lollipops, then you’re going to be shocked as hell. And hell is will be,
Their is no former or current country with a dictator/strongman/authoritarian leader in the world that offers the potential, freedom, independence and opportunities that Americans have grown accustomed to. Tucker Carlson gushed at how much better Russia is - well asshole go live there. He was shown what they wanted him to see - a propaganda tour of all the upscale places the oligarchs live, dine and work.
How are you and your family going to thrive in a country where the government restricts knowledge, news is only the government’s version of the world, freedom of speech is nonexistent, religion is limited, you are “told” who to vote for and anyone who speaks out against the government gets shipped off to labor camps? The delights of the Western World are only available to the wealthy or active party members.
Which would you rather do? Work together to improve our country or start all over at the bottom of society with little to no input. Dictators don’t care what you want.
I live in a maga county in a red state. Trust me, most people wouldn’t want to live where I live.
True. For starters it’s well documented that such things as health outcomes and longevity fare worse in red states. Living in a state where abortion is banned or heavily restricted literally puts the lives of reproductive age women in danger.
I’ve read about totalitarian societies. What seems glamorous to anyone that thinks this the way to go? Owning the libs does not a society make.
The globe will feel the American abandonment of law even more keenly...
There is a Pax Americana... and Trump will weaken the US to the extent that evil will be so off the leash it couldn't mitigate it even if it wanted to.
Policy? Trump has just one... evil.
Biden has many that mitigate and counter evil.
The loss of half the work force does not mean white guys return to the best jobs without suffering any loss. Yes, maybe a woman will cook, clean, and wait on them at home, but half the household income is lost. The US would lose doctors, lawyers, nurses, judges, teachers, engineers, store staff, and so many other jobs that females do. That means production is cut or stopped. Healthcare is seriously impacted, courts grind to a halt. And what about the jobs immigrants do, like meat processing, landscaping, or basic labor?
I just don’t know how to convey this to the trumpublican crowd. It’s as crazy as they are.
I would like to point out that immigrants do SO MUCH MORE than “meat processing, landscaping, or basic labor.”
You’re right, just using some as examples. A high percentage of Dreamers are training for much needed health care jobs.
Yep, I know a couple nurses that fled violence in the south. But they do do the shitty jobs that most meat-fed Americans will not do.
Jamie,
Glad to be here. We have a one-pager on how Project 2025 will impact media at our campaign website. Www.stopthecoup2025.org.
We also have a weekly headline digest of key losses/setbacks vs progressive advances on Project 2025 themes that provide a loose yardstick of unfolding Christian Nationalist agenda as related to Project 2025. And we have a newsletter for updates, robust social media. Have a look.
We will soon add a solid list of key trackers and folks covering sectors in our resources. Have a look. Thanks for your work.
— Anne-chtistine d’Adesky,
Journalist,
Founder GenDemocracy
(umbrella for STC 2025 campaign to stop Project 2025)
@stopthecoup2025 - X, etc.
This wiould be life under Trump’s thumb.
The rich actually believe no one man could take away their money, influence, freedom, lives. Let me introduce you to Vlad.
That image from The Americans, of Martha in a Soviet near-empty market, really powerful. Brought home the whole deceitful lie that Philip and Elizabeth had been fighting so hard to maintain.
Especially those rotting in gulags
Oh. I don’t know, you can’t complain about fascism. I mean, you REALLY can’t.
You mean they won’t let you complain, right?
That was my idea of a joke, yes
First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me
German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984).
This discussion seems like it should be twinned with “If society collapsed, you're way more likely to be enslaved or livestock than Lord Humungous, and the ”state of nature“ is not only “nasty, brutish, and short” but also absolutely teeming with parasites”.
This will be life under Trump.